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Post by Asuka Was Here on Aug 17, 2006 9:23:03 GMT -5
That sort of thing doesn't really scare me - I used to love Unsolved Mysteries, documentaries, odd hings like that, etc. It was just that one show, and the way that they presented it, that scared the living daylights out of me. It didn't help that it was pitch-black outside and 10pm... I love water Swimming is the only athletic activity that you will ever, ever find me participating in, and I prefer my oceans and lakes deep enough that I can't reach the bottom - that way I can't put my foot down and step on something icky or get my toes pinched by a crab. Plus, water=fish (unless it's a pool, of course), and fish=love. There are few things in this world as truly magical as swimming through a school of millions of little minnows ^^ And I <3 my pet angelfish (they're all named after Bleach characters ^^) Immortality is a fun thing I do get some grief every now and then over being an athiest but loving anime which deals with religion, mythology, gods, immortality and so forth. It's just that I treat it as I would any fantasy novel. Ick. I hate spiders. But I don't think I've had any nightmares about them, I just freak out when they're close to me. And I was fortunate enough to not have any nightmares after all, last night. I'm not sure what exactly I dreamed about, exactly, but I got lucky 'cuz I was pretty creeped out by the time I fell asleep ^^'
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Autumn
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Post by Autumn on Aug 17, 2006 12:05:00 GMT -5
Ick. I hate spiders. But I don't think I've had any nightmares about them, I just freak out when they're close to me. And I was fortunate enough to not have any nightmares after all, last night. I'm not sure what exactly I dreamed about, exactly, but I got lucky 'cuz I was pretty creeped out by the time I fell asleep ^^' A few days ago a spider was crawling on my chest and I just thought it was my hair. When I looked down and saw it digging in my breast I freaked out and tried to shake it out, but it just held onto my shirt. I freaked and ran into the bathroom and took off my clothes and jumped in the shower, the thing was in my hair. It met it's match when I squished it into the drain though >_<
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Post by Asuka Was Here on Aug 17, 2006 15:07:45 GMT -5
Oh, gross! *shudders* Once I was getting dressed for school at like 5:30 in the morning and I looked down and there was a spider crawling on my hand, and it took everything I had to not scream and wake up the entire house. Actually, scream is a bad tern to use - I don't scream when I'm scared (actually, if one defines screaming as that loud, high-pitched noise usually associated with scared women, I've never actually done that ^^' I yell like a man, though ). I just make started jumps and/or flail around and/or try and get whatever it is off of me. I also don't mind little spiders so much, it's the big ones that freak me out.
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Post by orochimaruchan on Aug 17, 2006 20:32:50 GMT -5
That sort of thing doesn't really scare me - I used to love Unsolved Mysteries, documentaries, odd hings like that, etc. It was just that one show, and the way that they presented it, that scared the living daylights out of me. It didn't help that it was pitch-black outside and 10pm... I love water Swimming is the only athletic activity that you will ever, ever find me participating in, and I prefer my oceans and lakes deep enough that I can't reach the bottom - that way I can't put my foot down and step on something icky or get my toes pinched by a crab. Plus, water=fish (unless it's a pool, of course), and fish=love. There are few things in this world as truly magical as swimming through a school of millions of little minnows ^^ And I <3 my pet angelfish (they're all named after Bleach characters ^^) Immortality is a fun thing I do get some grief every now and then over being an athiest but loving anime which deals with religion, mythology, gods, immortality and so forth. It's just that I treat it as I would any fantasy novel. Ick. I hate spiders. But I don't think I've had any nightmares about them, I just freak out when they're close to me. And I was fortunate enough to not have any nightmares after all, last night. I'm not sure what exactly I dreamed about, exactly, but I got lucky 'cuz I was pretty creeped out by the time I fell asleep ^^' I almost drowned twice when I was little, so my aversion to water is well funded. For some reason, I think you might really get a kick out of my Original storyline(the really long one), simply because it deals with most of those things and more. I had a spider on my face once, I was trying to go to bed and then got really freaked out, I flipped it off somewhere and ten spent the next 4 hours sitting on the edge of my bed playing Devil May Cry 3 because I was too freaked out to go back to sleep, I couldn't lay on my left side for a while after that. I had one on my hand too, it came out from where my keyboard was, and again I flung it somewhere. I yell like a man too, I'm not even sure I have to ability to scream. I have a bunch of pics that need the line art finished on them, but all I have right now it this.....
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Post by Asuka Was Here on Aug 17, 2006 21:00:19 GMT -5
It's a lovely piece, although I tend not to support character/OC pairings (unless they're very well done, they're constantly treading the line between fanfic and Suefic). I like the blushes. Your OC does look a little masculine, and just because I have to ask: Is that a can of beer Cougar's holding? My sister and best friend tried to teach me to scream once. That was interesting o.0 They only accomplished getting my man!yell a few pitches higher... I probably would enjoy your storyline ^^ But unless you manage to get it down somehow, I can't read it I've never almost drowned, but I have been in situations where I could have drowned - like when I got pummeled by a storm-created wave while body surfing once, and water went up my nose and I was thrown under and coulding figure out where up was o.0 What I was doing in stormy Bahama seawater at age nine is beyond me, but I did have adult supervision. Sort of. I often wonder if my father actually qualifies as an adult. As far as I'm concerned, water is safe as long as you respect the fact that it could kill you mercilessly and don't get too reckless. And just for the sake of giving out more info than anyone actually cares about, I prefer boogie-boarding to body-surfing. Apart from giving you something extra to hold onto if you get tired, it's easier to catch a wave, and you're a little less likely to get sand up your nose and/or be flipped over. I've never been surfing on a stand-up board, so I can't offer an opinion on that.
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Post by orochimaruchan on Aug 17, 2006 21:29:20 GMT -5
Most people wouldn't, but if you tell me the difference between fanfic and suefic, I can tell you where it stands. I get that a lot, really a lot, apparently if there isn't some girlie defining feature on a female character, they're masculine. Although, girlie stuff doesn't really go with her character, it's not that she can't be feminine, it's just not in a really girlie way. And it's just a soda can, and she's holding it not Cougar.
I could probably put most of the storyline down in bullets of main events, but it'd probably be at least a page long and I'd probably forget some things.
I can't swim, so all of this is pointless.
I really like the way her eyes came out in that pic though......I haven't gotten to color eyes like that in awhile...........
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Post by Asuka Was Here on Aug 17, 2006 22:00:07 GMT -5
A fanfic by definition is fan-written fiction which may or may not contain interaction with fan-created characters. It becomes a suefic when the author sticks in a self-insert OC (that is, a character based off of themselves, or some highly idealized version thereof) who develops a romantic relationship with a character in order to fulfil the author's fantasies. The reason I say only exceptional OC writers can avoid treading this line is because none but the best avoid sticking no element of themselves whatsoever into a character, so unless a fanfic avoids OC-romance whatsoever, there's usually an element of Mary-Sue in it. The issue with suefics is that they exist for the purpose of living out the author's own fantasies, and thus lose the meaning of fanfiction, which is created to entertain, amuse, or otherwise promote the fandom itself, not some self-centered perversion of it. Also, they're often painful to read. ^^ If you want an example, the only one I can think of at the time is a Zaraki Kenpachi suefic that someone pointed out to me about a week ago for its blatant and obvious sue-ness (a.k.a. someone was making fun of it because it was so awful...) I couldn't read past the second page because it drove me nuts (it was badly out of character, to say the least, and not well-written), but for example's sake: www.fanfiction.net/s/3066878/1/At this point, I should probably just go write an essay on the subject That was way too long. I think it's just the way you draw women - you're more used to drawing men, and you end up giving your women mannish faces... If I hadn't seen her a dozen times or more with boobs attached, I could have said she was a man. She does have nice eyes, though. I will say this: LEARN TO SWIM! It may save your life someday, and even if it doesn't, it's just one of those good skills that everyone should have (kind of like literacy, and yet people have been fighting that for millenia...). It does explain your fear of water, though. Seriously. I know I spew advice pretty often, but swimming is really just one of those things you should learn. It's likely your town has a swimming course if it has a YMCA or gym with a pool, but if not, get a friend to teach you or something. Drowning is a bad way to go, especially if it's preventable.
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Post by orochimaruchan on Aug 17, 2006 22:38:31 GMT -5
Alright, I get it, I just wasn't sure because I'm used to the mary sue term being used in video games mostly. Although now I'm having a bit of trouble seeing the difference between a mary sue and just any given character, made up or not.
Compared to how I normally draw men, it's a lot less masculine. I draw male and female faces quite a bit differently, but it apparently doesn't matter. I will admit that her hair isn't particularly girlie looking though.
Yeah, no, just no. I've tried 2 or 3 times before to learn and it's just unnatural to me, I don't like being in water. In fact one of the times I almost drowned was in a pool during a swimming class, so you know, learning didn't help too much. I find it a bit easier just to avoid water, no, I don't care if it's dodging a supposed problem. Right now the only way you could get me out into water is if I was in a plane crash over water, or if I was kidnapped and they took me out in a boat.
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Post by Asuka Was Here on Aug 25, 2006 22:01:16 GMT -5
Really? I'm not really a gamer, as I've established repeatedly, but I'd never heard of it used frequently in anything but fanfiction. Not going to go into the difference between a Sue and any made-up character again, I think you have enough of that, but it does tend to vary from personal opinion. ...I should so totally go write up a Sue-rating system or something. Like, "give your character fifteen points if he'she kisses any canon character, and an extra five if it's someone you like" Be an interesting thing to do, if nothing else. I would agree that she's a little less masculine; it's just that your style in general is very much... manly. As in, even if you can see women's boobs, they still look a little like men with boobs and skinny waists. You do draw women differently, but they end up (and you're probably going to want to kick me for saying this because you think they're overrated) looking very bishie-ish as opposed to macho. Ah, well, your loss. It's actually very fun, as far as exercise goes. But if we're ever riding in an airplane together and it crashes in the ocean, don't expect me to swim you to safety
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Post by orochimaruchan on Aug 26, 2006 9:52:59 GMT -5
Well seeing as how I've been a gamer since 2nd grade and I haven't read a fanfic since......1998...I think, I'm more aware of it. Although most of it comes from reading almost everything at videogamerecaps.com
I've figured out that the term 'MarySue' is used basically in the same way that the term 'Furry' is. While it can be used on any character whether its made up or is an actual character in a manga or anime, the actual connotation behind the term is only really in effect when it's used on a very poorly made character in a fanfic.
There are already tests like that, go to Wikipedia, search mary sue, go to the bottom of the page, there's a few of them.
I just give up, I'm going to chalk most of this up to stereotypes in anime and manga. There's always got to be a justification on any female character that makes them female, and just because I don't have one of those means my female characters are better off being men than women. I could draw something really pink and girlie and pretty, but it'd be so out of character that it'd be a travesty so I don't see the point in it. I will however draw it just to make a joke of out it.
I get enough exercise, I have to walk 2 miles to the closest store and then 2 miles back just to do ANYTHING here, mostly errands.
The only reason I'd be on a plane over water, or even on a plane, would be if I was going to Japan. I can't stand flying.
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Post by Asuka Was Here on Aug 26, 2006 15:50:29 GMT -5
Huh. I should go look at that, I didn't know there were tests out there for Sues. ^^ I wonder if they're accurate. Girly and pink and pretty is not when I mean when I say feminine. There's a certain... almost vibe that an illustration needs to convey the gender of a character, and while it can be conveyed by boobs or muscles or face shapes and haircuts, it's really not that that makes a character look one gendor or the other. It's hard to describe, I guess, but it just needs to have a certain feel to it. Impressive. There's nothing around here within four miles of my house (except a pond, if that counts o.0), but then again, I have a car and so does everyone else in the area. There are a lot of recreational cyclists, too (for some reason they get pissed if you call them bikers o.0), but they don't use bikes for travel. So, naturally, I get no exercise. ^^ ANd swimming is good for me. I don't terribly like flying, either, nor do I do it frequently. But, if I had to get to a vacation spot where we couldn't drive (as in, We'll drive to South Carolina, but Florida is just too far for six people in a car), I'd take a plane. I kind of like going through airport security, too, they always find someonthing on me that sets off the metal detector, and it's never anything dangerous, of course, but it's fun to watch them get all spazzy and search your bags ^^ Once they thought the camera I had packed was a bomb and another time, I got stopped going into a museum because their x-ray contraption picked up the glass bottle I had in my bag - again, it was supposedly a bomb -.-'. That really isn't amusing, actually, but I sort of enjoy it. Makes for good stories, at the very least. I do feel sorry for my little sister, though - she's on a crutch and has a knee brace, so she sets off everything - including the security systems at the local CVS.
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Post by orochimaruchan on Aug 26, 2006 20:16:25 GMT -5
I do and don't understand about the feminine thing. Right now, I'm just going to blame her hair for everything and maybe draw her with her glasses on more often....
I used to live not a mile away from practically everything. Grocery stores, drug stores, a mall, a theater, video rental places, fast food, a deli. Just about anything. Now there's a safeway and a fred meyer, and the fred meyer doesn't have an anime section in their dvd area....
I used to fly to see my brother, but then he decided to be a jerk and now I don't really fly anywhere, there's nowhere to go anyway. I hated flying allow, everybody would always try to talk to me...
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Post by Asuka Was Here on Aug 26, 2006 20:24:39 GMT -5
I have no idea what the heck a fred meyer is, but I would assume from the context it's some sort of video store. Try harassing them to start up an anime section ^^ That's my solution to everything: if it's not there, harass someone until it is ...Actually, come to think of it, I don't know what a safeway is, either. Is it a grocery/department/random stuff store or something? My brother is about fifteen yards away in his bedroom, so I don't need to fly to see him ^^
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Post by orochimaruchan on Aug 27, 2006 13:11:04 GMT -5
Fred Meyer is a department/grocery store and Safeway is just a grocery store.
My brother and I are 17 years apart and I've never lived with him. In like 10 years I think I saw him 8 times. He lives in Washington and now that we moved to Oregon it's only like a 4 or 5 hour drive to him as opposed to the 20 some it was from California. But he's kind of a jerk and a total smartaleck so I don't really like being around him too much.
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Post by Asuka Was Here on Aug 28, 2006 11:51:30 GMT -5
Oh. Sort of like a WalMart, then? *loves WalMart* Do they sell fabric and craft supplies, too?
Wow. That's a pretty big gap; I thought I was a lot older than my brother and we're only ten and a half years apart... I take it he's older, right? I have a little sister who I dislike being in the presence of ^^ She's such a brat - rude and obnoxious, and devious to boot. Unfortunately, she lives in the same house -.-' SO I sort of understand.
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Post by orochimaruchan on Aug 28, 2006 20:19:26 GMT -5
Yeah, my brother is older, 37 actually, our mom had him young and me kinda late. I bet your sister doesn't openly disapprove of the way your mom raises you or try to control your life from 2 states away. Although now since he has a kid of his own, he's finding out it's not all that easy.
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Post by Asuka Was Here on Aug 29, 2006 16:46:12 GMT -5
o.0 How is that any of his business? If he's not gonna be around, then he has no right to interfere... (and no, my sister is only 11, she doesn't do much except be rude, obnoxious, and deviously manipulate my mother while gushing over horse posters. Just you wait, though, she'll get worse; I know it).
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Post by orochimaruchan on Aug 29, 2006 20:50:23 GMT -5
He doesn't, he just doesn't like it because our mom raised us so differently, the biggest difference being that my mom and dad aren't divorced like his were. I'm also kind of spoiled or so he thinks, apparently he has like 3 times as many toys for his kid than I ever had as a toddler. He's apparently getting better about stuff, but I don't like talking to him or really be around him much so I'm not going to freely witness it myself. I'll probably be forced to eventually though....
I'm just complaining now, I have 2 Scryed pics that almost have the line art done on them that need work....
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Post by Asuka Was Here on Aug 29, 2006 21:34:18 GMT -5
Eh, feel free to vent while you finish lineart. I don't mind. Next time he says he gets more toys for his kid, show him your anime collection photos 'Sides toddlers don't need toys, they're at that stage where everything is a toy and anything can amuse them
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Post by orochimaruchan on Aug 30, 2006 16:02:10 GMT -5
Unlike other people, I tend to get madder the more I vent and then I have to forcibly stop myself and think about something else.
It doesn't really matter to a toddler, a box could be an awesome toy to them. He already thinks I have too much stuff, which he doesn't have much right to say about since he has a huge collection of sports memorabilia in his basement, what I don't more is that he doesn't respect my hobbies(video games mostly), but I have to be nice about all his sports obsession crap...
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